Navigating the often murky waters of chronic illness like endometriosis can be a lonely endeavour. But what if you could find solace, understanding, and support in a community of individuals who are walking the same path as you? Welcome to our special Friendsgiving episode, where we deep dive into our personal experiences with endometriosis, how we've built a robust support system, and the power of being honest with each other.
We also unpack the value of community and gratitude, especially during the holiday season. We share our personal tales of Friendsgiving celebrations, the tricky navigation of tough family conversations, and how we cope with the added stress that holidays bring. We also introduce you to our unique endometriosis support network which is a lifeline of resources and support for those in need. On a lighter note, we chat about the simple joys of seasonal decorations and our shared love for pumpkins, despite their allure to the neighborhood squirrels! Also our shared addition to the Just Peachy drink from Ziggi's Coffee.
As we move forward, we delve into the impact and power of online support communities, particularly for those battling chronic conditions like ours. We share our experiences of how finding our tribe online has helped us cope better and feel less alone. We stress the importance of expanding these communities beyond just patients, as it can positively impact others' health and lives. As we wrap up, we reflect on the significance of community and gratitude in sustaining us during challenging times and the role they play in maintaining connections. We also contemplate the beauty of Friendsgiving as a time to celebrate with our loved ones and to express gratitude for the good in our lives. We hope this episode leaves you feeling less alone, more connected, and perhaps even a little thankful!
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Navigating the often murky waters of chronic illness like endometriosis can be a lonely endeavour. But what if you could find solace, understanding, and support in a community of individuals who are walking the same path as you? Welcome to our special Friendsgiving episode, where we deep dive into our personal experiences with endometriosis, how we've built a robust support system, and the power of being honest with each other.
We also unpack the value of community and gratitude, especially during the holiday season. We share our personal tales of Friendsgiving celebrations, the tricky navigation of tough family conversations, and how we cope with the added stress that holidays bring. We also introduce you to our unique endometriosis support network which is a lifeline of resources and support for those in need. On a lighter note, we chat about the simple joys of seasonal decorations and our shared love for pumpkins, despite their allure to the neighborhood squirrels! Also our shared addition to the Just Peachy drink from Ziggi's Coffee.
As we move forward, we delve into the impact and power of online support communities, particularly for those battling chronic conditions like ours. We share our experiences of how finding our tribe online has helped us cope better and feel less alone. We stress the importance of expanding these communities beyond just patients, as it can positively impact others' health and lives. As we wrap up, we reflect on the significance of community and gratitude in sustaining us during challenging times and the role they play in maintaining connections. We also contemplate the beauty of Friendsgiving as a time to celebrate with our loved ones and to express gratitude for the good in our lives. We hope this episode leaves you feeling less alone, more connected, and perhaps even a little thankful!
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Welcome back to Indo Battery Happy Friendsgiving. Today it's Friendsgiving for us, so go ahead and grab your cocktail, mocktail, coffee or tea and sit back and relax and enjoy the conversation that I will be having with someone that I adore greatly, who is in my life all the time and can never come out of my life ever, and that's my work wife Chelsea.
Speaker 2:Hello, hi, hi Again. So happy to be here. I love when you invite me to be on with you. It's always fun, it is fun, it is fun, and you are my favorite work wife I've ever had, so really I am, you are, yeah, yeah. Oh wow, you win that award for sure.
Speaker 1:Is it because we have angry uteruses? It is.
Speaker 2:That's what brought us together. It is what brought us together, our angry pelvises. Yes, in general.
Speaker 1:In general. Yeah, it wasn't so much the uterus as the pelvis, for us Right. Yeah, even though uterus was angry yeah.
Speaker 2:Mine was like uterosecral ligaments and ovaries and all the other things were angry. I mean my uterus was pretty angry, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's why I think having community and why this Friendsgiving is important, because Friendsgiving is about giving gratitude for your community that you're in, and we have a great community.
Speaker 2:We do have a great community and we've worked really hard to establish this community and kind of get people together and on the same page when it comes to this disease and how to support each other. And it just makes me really happy that I have you in my life now and, yeah, you are one of my favorite people.
Speaker 1:So thank you. You're one of mine, and mostly because we can talk to each other about everything. Like I'll call Chelsea and I'm like I will sometimes just sit on the phone and not even talk and like work on stuff.
Speaker 2:I do Like I'll sit there and be working on like our website, or and she'll be working on her website. We'll be working on stuff, yeah, and we don't even talk, like every once in a while we like mutter profanities or something. That's it. That's what our phone calls consist of sometimes.
Speaker 1:Sometimes, and it's okay, but it's like I don't know what it is. It's about having that like I don't know what to call it, maybe that camaraderie of the moral support.
Speaker 2:The moral support.
Speaker 1:Right, I am so exhausted right now and I'm a little moody and my kids are going to drive me crazy, so if I'm on the phone with you, maybe, just maybe, I can get something done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would agree with you completely. You help keep me from losing my mind a lot of times, which is good, especially lately, because my hormones have been, I think, non existent. At this point I'm pretty sure they all are just gone, like I just don't have any hormones left or anything. So I think it's been a little bit difficult and having you to walk through it and be like hey, I just yelled at everyone that I love and it started crying at the same time and then pretend like nothing happened and you're like hey.
Speaker 1:I know exactly how that is. I just had a meltdown on my family and it's fine, it's fine, yeah, everybody's fine, saving for their therapy bills on top of mine. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's.
Speaker 2:It might remind me to go apologize Like it might be a good idea for you to go say sorry, chelsea, for the words that you said and your attitude, cause it is kind of bad, and you'll tell me that, which I love I'd be like. You do have a bad attitude. You need to reel it in which is nice. I think having honest friends is like one of the best things you can have.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, and you're very honest with me.
Speaker 1:Well, and it's good, because in the advocacy world or when you're public like this podcast is I sometimes just need to bounce ideas off of you, like, hey, what do you think about this? Or like I'm really trying to figure out how to do this and make it approachable. What does this look like? And sometimes my brain is so inundated with all the information that I am constantly learning, which I'm so thankful for that that information. I'm enjoying just being able to sit down and have a conversations with other patients, with doctors, with experts in their field. I love that. I love learning. But sometimes it's I get so in the weeds of that that I need someone to help pull me out and say, hey, have you thought about this? Or I'll run something past you and you're like Well, I like that, but I think this would be better. Yeah, and I think that's so important in our community to have that, because we do get in the weeds, but we're also dealing with an illness that takes a lot out of you.
Speaker 2:I would agree with you and I think that it's one of my favorite things about our friendship is when I'm having a bad day or I wake up and it's like oh, I didn't, I slept two hours last night. I can't function Like you. Never make me feel bad for being like. Today is not the day.
Speaker 1:I love you, I want to come over.
Speaker 2:I want to see you. You know we had plans, we were going to record something, we were going to go somewhere, and you will never give me a hard time for it and you'll just be like, hey, I get it, you're good. Take the day off Like, rest, relax, do what you need to do, we'll regroup later. And it's so nice. And not that my friends that don't have endometriosis don't understand, because they do, they're awesome about it usually, but with you.
Speaker 2:It's like oh, it takes, is like one message from like hey, today's not the day and you're like, hey, I get it Must have been a rough night. Must have been a rough morning, whatever it is, and it's nice having somebody that you'd like love me unconditionally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or you can complain about your hot flashes too, or my hot flashes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And there's so that, like I was actually an hour late today to meeting her because I had to shower, because I was so sweaty. It's just like I can't go out in public Like I can. It was not good so yeah, and we get it.
Speaker 1:I mean, and that's the thing, like when you have community, you're able to feel seen, and I think that that's important in this disease, because I feel like a lot of times we feel so isolated.
Speaker 2:And we're. It's exhausting pretending like we're okay all the time, yeah, and it's so nice to be like hey, not okay today. You get it. I'm not complaining, I'm not. It's just this is where I'm at and I'm just exhausted or I don't feel well, and it's just nice to have. It's nice to have that.
Speaker 1:Chelsea is on the nonprofit board with me, shelby, and then there's Lee and Inga as well, and we started this nonprofit called Indo village and it's been really good for us to have a space, with other endometriosis patients coming in and bouncing ideas off of one another. And what's been so fascinating and what I'm so grateful for is that when someone walks in, we see them, we understand exactly what they're going through and we can bounce ideas off of each other Like, hey, I'm really struggling with my hormones. I have no drive at all. Really, I am like a teenage boy over here. Right, what did you do? Oh, you're taking testosterone, got it. I didn't know that was an option. Or hey, I saw this doctor and they were amazing. They understood what endometriosis was. If you need a doctor like this, this is a really good resource for you. So like pooling your resources and having ideas to bounce off of one another, because, just because you have an excision surgery, that's step one. But life still happens, right? This disease did not happen overnight, right? Nor is healing.
Speaker 2:It takes years to undo the damage. I mean, I'm more than three years out from surgery and I'm still in pelvic floor physical therapy regularly. I'm still doing regular massages and stuff to treat some of my muscle dysfunction in my back. I work at it every day. You know I'm still every day I'm trying new things and I'm testing out stuff just to see what works and what doesn't work.
Speaker 2:And so it's a marathon and it's important that you have people on your team to kind of jump in for you and help out where they can and support you along the way, because this is not an overnight hey, head surgery and I feel great the next day and I'm ready to go and I have my life back. It's and that was, I think, one of the things that was so surprising to me about this disease was I had surgery and I woke up and I'm like I definitely felt better.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it was like oh no, I still don't feel great Like what's going on. Excuse me, body. Yeah, excuse me, you're supposed to be better.
Speaker 1:You're not as permission to feel this way again, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, and you know it's like that excision is the first step and there's so much more involved in it and I think having that community during this marathon, it's just, it's so important and I'm so happy that we have the group that we have, you know, with our nonprofit board, but also the members of Endo Village that come to our meetings every month. We do in-person meetings every month where we bring people in, you know, the Northern Colorado area together and sometimes we have education stuff. Sometimes we do like fun events, Like this month it's going to be a social event and it's just, it's nice, it's so fun to be able to sit and I look forward to seeing everybody and we've we've built a really good group here and I just cannot emphasize enough how healing that has been for all of us, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would agree. I mean, I feel like you know before I've had really good friends and I still do it Like you guys aren't my only friends.
Speaker 1:I hate to break that to you that you're not my only. I know I thought I was it. You're my workwife. You're still. You're the only workwife I have right now. I like that. I'll take that. Yeah, okay, I do feel like it's important that we recognize that this disease can be lasting and I think that when you gather people who understand that, it becomes a different bond. I don't really know how to explain it. It's a totally different bond than what you would typically see within your friend group, because we get it right. Right, we get it. We get our crazy, yep, oh, we get it Probably too well.
Speaker 2:Probably too well.
Speaker 1:Like the trauma that we've faced in the past. If you have trauma, we get that Right, we get. Hey, I tried this, I did too, and it was awful. It was awful for me too. I'm not crazy, nope, no, am I crazy? Well, yeah, probably we both are, but you know we're crazy together, Right?
Speaker 2:No, it's very true. It's very validating to have other people you know, because I think, especially during the diagnostic process of this disease, and how long it takes you just you're told nothing's wrong with you forever you know, I mean, it took me 22 years to get diagnosed and so you know, with people, with having that group of people where it's like, hey, like I know that my feelings are valid, I know that what I'm experiencing in my body is actually true.
Speaker 2:And this is true, and it's so nice to have people on your side that really understand that, but it's also important to find people that you can laugh with. Oh yeah, we laugh more than we actually do anything else. It's so true. It's so true, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I do think like that is part of that healing process. I feel like we're in this. I think for years I was in this trauma, pain cycle. And it was hard to laugh sometimes because I was grieving what I wanted my body to do and wasn't doing. And then I just feel like, because I went through some trauma with some doctors or you know it's, all of that was a lot that if you don't laugh, you don't heal.
Speaker 2:No, I agree. I think laughter, like they say, laughter is the best medicine, and they do. It sounds cliche, but it is so true. I mean, we have laughed our way through a lot of trauma, I think. And it really does help. It really has made a huge impact on my healing and how I feel emotionally and now we have great jokes and we have a great time.
Speaker 1:We think we're really funny. We think we're so funny. We also have an addiction to these peach drinks from Ziggy's. They should sponsor us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, we really do need that sponsorship. I feel like I have you got me hooked on them and now I've gotten, like all of my outside of my endo group, all of my other girlfriends hooked on them. My friend just came out to visit from Pennsylvania and I took her to Ziggy's to get them and we went three times this weekend to get drinks.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:She's like can we go to Ziggy's please? I need one of those drinks. And she had to go back and she was very sad that they don't have Ziggy's out there so.
Speaker 1:I know so, if you're ever in Colorado.
Speaker 2:Go get the peach drink at Ziggy's. He will thank us. It's delicious, you will thank us, it's so good.
Speaker 1:But I mean, it's always like, hey, you need a Ziggy's, yeah, I need to Ziggy's, Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's our love language between each other. I love it.
Speaker 2:We're like when I know she's having a bad day. I go to Ziggy's and get my drink and I bring one and drop it by her house on my way home. I literally drive 20 minutes to Ziggy's almost and get my drink. It's terrible. It's such an addiction. They're putting one by my house, thankfully, but it's not gonna be. But that's not so, thankfully, if you Right. No, it's costing me a fortune.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, we need that sponsorship. Come on, we need that sponsorship. We're not sponsored yet.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, so it is. I mean, and the same goes for you You've brought me Ziggy's when I need it and it's like hey, I slept two hours last night. I'm exhausted. It was up all night. I had hot flashes, I had to change my sheets in the middle of the night because I was so sweaty, and you will just show up like a little angel from heaven, from the goodies heaven, to bring me that delicious peach drink.
Speaker 1:So I would like to think that I'm an angel. I'm no angel.
Speaker 2:Oh, you are Well. No, maybe not.
Speaker 1:But most of the time you are. I'm pretty angelic. Sometimes You're pretty angelic. I mean I have a bell that I ring sometimes to call my family.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure I've seen a halo over your head a few times.
Speaker 1:Really yeah, pretty little, if you can take a picture next time, I can prove that to people?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll see what I can do, but I do think that there's value in having gratitude for where we're at and where we've been, and I think you know the holidays are so hard for so many people and it's challenging to navigate, explaining your pain, your fatigue, what you're going through to family members that maybe don't understand it, and or functioning through all the different things that we're doing on a daily basis, whether that's cooking, cleaning, taking care of family members, trying to work, trying to walk a dog. And then you add the holidays to that and it's significantly harder and the stress goes up, inflammation goes up, flares are the worst during the holidays, and so just having that community in that base of okay, I can talk to someone about this, and having gratitude for that too, yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 2:No, it is huge. I am so grateful for you, for the other women on our team that we have here. It's just amazing how something that was such an awful point in my life and such an awful thing to experience has brought so much joy to me on the other side of it. Yeah, with these friendships and the relationships that we have with each other, it's just, it's magical and it's nice to have you. I'm excited for the holidays, actually this year because I have you to bounce things off of and I might come over here and sleep at your house.
Speaker 1:You can, If you can get past. She hasn't seen my giant tree that I'm getting yet, but I usually get a 20 foot Christmas tree. Oh, that's going to be awesome. It takes up this whole entryway.
Speaker 2:I'm really. I love the people that put Christmas up really early, but also it makes me feel really inadequate.
Speaker 1:I'm looking behind, so I'm really happy that I showed up to you and you don't have a Christmas tree. I saw my pumpkins?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no kind of the squirrels are eating more than half of them. I usually have like, so this is an embarrassing story about me. Every year we go to this pumpkin patch kind of close to our house and they have the best pumpkins because they have all the different colors. So I'm not the person that loves just big, round orange pumpkins. I like pumpkins that are blue, green, pink. If they had purple ones I'd probably have those too. I love gourds. I love little warty pumpkins and different shapes and stuff. So every year we go I'm like I'm just I'm only going to get like maybe five or maybe five. I walked away with 92 pounds of pumpkins. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And now I feel like that's like a small human. It's more than my kids. It's more than my kids.
Speaker 1:It weighs more than my kids. That's like a teenager. That's amazing. You have a teenager's weight worth of pumpkins, yeah, and I actually have to struggle to find space for all of them. So I put some out front for decoration when people walk in, because I love fall. It's my favorite season and the squirrels every year eat them, and everyone else has pumpkins on their porches in my neighborhood. Do you think they get eaten? Nope, they just know you're really generous.
Speaker 2:I am generous with my pumpkins. They're just a generous human and they know that they're not going to get shot at. They're eating your pumpkins. Maybe your neighbors? They're a little worried, I don't know. They should be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, they should be, but I do have the pumpkins.
Speaker 2:But then I'm at her house and she has a lot of pumpkins. I have a lot of pumpkins. There's a lot of pumpkins here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do have a lot and they're like all different. I'll have to take a picture. I'm going to post it with this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you guys can see all my pumpkins. The point of that is is that holidays and community are important. They're so important and having a relationship where you can just come and just digest what is happening in your life or having someone show up on your doorstep with something that you need, is so important, and I think that with the Indimitriosis community, these people are made different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yes.
Speaker 1:You know, like I have met so many amazing people through this community who will step up and support you in any way that they can, and I don't know if that's common within chronic illness communities or not, but I will say that within this community specifically, I have felt so welcomed, which is odd to say. I feel welcomed in a chronic illness community. That sounds terrible, but it's true because people want to help you Right. They want you to have the best quality life.
Speaker 2:You can, yeah, and they will take time out of their day to talk with you, to explain things, to give you resources and refer you to specialists.
Speaker 2:And I mean like we spend a lot of our time advocating for patients in Northern Colorado and explaining hey, you know, these are the doctors that people have had great luck with here, these are the doctors that have good results that you know, and we share a lot of that information and I think, I would like to think, that we've helped quite a few people find a better life on the other side of excision surgery and all the other things that come with that.
Speaker 1:So Well, I think it's true. I mean, I see it worldwide, within the community.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and you just have to reach out and ask for support and people are there for you and support's going to look different for everyone. I think the other part of this, too, is we talk about support, but support might look different for you. Where you can support by, you know, giving material that is good, evidence-based material, yeah. Or support might be I have a really good ear to listen to you or support might just be hey, here's a link, here's a position to go, or place to go, here's, you know it's support and gifts within supporting are all different. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's kind of like the love language thing where, like some people, are really great at gift giving, you know. And so those are the people that we want on our team to do our care packages for patients that are having surgery, you know. And then there's some people who are great at listening, and those are the people when we're having the bad day that we contact, and so we do have a good group of patients here in.
Speaker 1:Northern.
Speaker 2:Colorado that we can bounce things off of and that I'll have their different strengths and weaknesses. And we really work to play into those with them and and it's different for everybody, everybody is a little bit different in what they're doing. I do think it's important to you know for those that are listening. You know we have an in-person support group but, finding support in any way that you can. You know we're blessed with social media. It's a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 1:I feel like yes.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I complain a lot about Facebook.
Speaker 1:They need to get their act together and make things better. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come on, Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're like together here. Is he still in Facebook? I don't even know. I don't even know. I think he's a robot.
Speaker 2:So you know we talk about community and we talk about in-person and you know finding your people locally if you can. But if you don't have that ability you don't have that opportunity. Maybe you're in a rural area or there's just you know you're not wanting to put yourself out there to find those people. Online can be a really great place for support. It's amazing the support that I found through different Facebook groups and it's just. It's really helped a lot, like my mom had. My mom and I both have a rare vascular compression disorder. It's called Maytherner Syndrome and she was diagnosed in the early 2000s and after years and years and decades of drama and pain and misery and all this stuff and she had no community she doesn't know anybody else that has this Right. There is nobody that she could be like hey, I'm having a bad day, hey, my leg hurts, this and this is going on, I have another blood clot, I have this issue. There's nobody for her to talk to.
Speaker 2:And now I have the same. You know, I was diagnosed with the same condition a few years ago and it's amazing. I'm in a Facebook group with like 4,000 other patients and we can bounce stuff off each other. We can share our doctors, we can share our experiences. These things worked really well for me. This didn't work. This is a great plan. This wasn't great for me, and it's just. It makes me so sad when I think about my mom going through, you know, decades of this pain and misery by herself, with nobody that understands it, because it's a rare. They say it's rare. It's probably not as rare as I think it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and in vitreous. This was really when I first got there.
Speaker 2:They always say, oh, this is so rare, and it's like, oh, actually everybody has it pretty much so you're like I can count them on all my fingers and toes Right yeah.
Speaker 2:So you know, and it probably would have made a huge impact on her if she would have had that support you know, I mean, she had her family and we understood because we watched her go through it, and but it would have made a huge difference, I think, and so it's. It's important to use those resources that are available to you. There are a lot of support groups out there, and if there isn't one, start one for your community Right. Start something. All you have to do is get together, that's it. Just find some like-minded people. Find them online. Find them in person, however, you have to find them, but it makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2:It has completely changed my life in such a good way, finding you guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean and that's what I was saying too is like I've had a friend group for a long time and I love them, but this is it's a different field, it's a different dynamic of support. It's a different kind of friendship. And and they're all great and we need them all because if we inundate ourselves with just endometriosis, right.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:It's a big, I mean it's. It's heavy. It can be really, really heavy, and we deal with things constantly that are more and more challenging every day. Navigating this disease is not easy and it's certainly you should never do it alone, but sometimes you have to step out of that and have other community people too. You know you have to have another support system, but I also think that's part of like education, because you have, like, one of your best friends knows more about endometriosis now and has been able to help other people right with diagnosis and other ways of like. Hey, that sounds like it could be endometriosis. Have you ever heard about that, you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, and really I mean it's from her listening to me bitch and moan for the We've been friends since we were 16. So she's been along with me on this ride, with me from almost day one and it's amazing her talking to her, she sounds like an endometriosis advocate.
Speaker 2:When I talk to her about stuff, she'll be like oh, did you see I've? She follows a lot of the endometriosis surgeons that we are friends with and that we follow. And did you see this? There's new research, there's this. Did you see this person's here and doing these things and received this award? And it's so fun watching her like be my little, like mini best friend advocate and it's one of my favorite things and she really has helped a lot of people. Same thing I have a neighbor who is the same way like as soon as somebody says anything about their periods, she will be like I have the person you have to learn about this. This is what this is. If you google it, it's probably going to be crazy information and it might be wrong. So call her, here's her number and she knows like she fights for people to get good information and it's awesome. And that's the other thing is like growing our community outside of the just the patients into the supporting people of the patients and how they can impact other people's health in their lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm so grateful for you, I'm so grateful for this community, I'm so grateful for all of you listeners who have impacted my life in such a positive way and this has been such a fun journey to walk with people on. It's been hard, it's been challenging and it's been heartbreaking at times, but it's also really, really rewarding and I'm so grateful that I have the listeners and the support people behind me. That's ever all the people that have come on the podcast. To the people that maybe you don't hear the voices of us as often, they're still there. They're still being my cheerleaders and helping me and figuring out. You know, here's some really good information you should talk about here's. You know, yeah, and just having that, that support outside of just friends, its support in the community, and it's so needed and that is how we will heal as a community, that is how we will grow, and I do think having gratitude is going to really allow us the energy and space to keep going.
Speaker 2:I agree, gratitude is one of the most important things, I think, and it's hard to find that sometimes when you're in it. Yeah, when you wake up every day and you're miserable, but it's like, hey, I'm grateful I found the surgeon I found I'm grateful that I was able to have the surgery that. I had I'm grateful that I have an awesome pelvic floor physical therapist. That is one of the funniest people I've ever met.
Speaker 1:We love her, we love her.
Speaker 2:Hilarious, so funny, so fun. She's the best. So you know, and it's sometimes it's just finding those things, and then there's some days where it's like you know what the only thing I'm grateful for is my peachy drink.
Speaker 1:Ziggy's, and that's all I can find gratitude for $8 a piece Ziggy's. Come on, I can't afford that.
Speaker 2:We're going broke on your drinks, but sometimes that's it, you know sometimes you have days, but it's most of them tend to be better than that, and a lot of that is because we have this community and absolutely each other to pull each other out of the funk when we get into it.
Speaker 1:So, and if it's hard to find gratitude, there is one thing you can be grateful for is that there's others in this with you. Absolutely, yeah. So that's what we want to just impart with you is that gratitude makes a huge difference, but I am so grateful for this community and the way that it supports one another. We hear you, we see you and we want to live in this journey with you so that we can all do it better together. Absolutely, so, until next time, enjoy your Thanksgiving and continue advocating for you and for those that you love. Thanks, chelsea, thank you, alana.